Knowing where the Sound came from, and if Zodiark actually did away with it, or merely halted it, will help explain a lot about all of this. That it also prevented creation magicks may also have been a secondary reason she performed the sundering. Caledor managed to defeat the Witch King, driving his army into the Marshes of Maledor. I think it's still entirely plausible (though not certain) that Hydaelyn actually is the true will of the star / personification of the lifestream, and that she sundered the world to make it impossible to perform the same feats of Creation that led to the Ascians' calamity in the first place. We learned at the end of Shadowbringers that the Warrior of Light is a fragment of one of the citizens of Amaurot. But Hydaelyn isn't driven by the sacrifice of lives or the pursuit of power. Maybe, not sure. Before Shadowbringers, I was pretty certain that Emet-Selch was wrong or lying and that both Zodiark and Hydaelyn existed before the Sundering, and if your guess is correct, then it could still be the case! The trouble is, it requires a concrete "concept" and stores of aether so vast that none of the Sundered have enough within them to actually perform the magic. Although Emet DOES say that both Zodiark and Hydaelyn are primals, something still feels different about Hydaelyn. Seeing extra sacrifices were needed to refuel Zodiark for the 'save the planet' part, it's likely that stopping the cataclysm did drain him. It is an endless quest taken up by the most intrepid and dauntless of souls. Most of the Kingdom of Tiranoc now lies underneath the Great Ocean of the World, including it's once-capital Tor Anroc. It was then that Malekith saw his chance to seize his birthright. I understand that goal. So the Sundering wasn't her method of defeating Zodiark; she had already done that. It's possible that Emet-Selch meant that only half of those who decided to summon Zodiark were sacrificed and that this was not half of the total number of survivors. Zodiark definitely sounds like a traditional primal, summoned using mass amount of aether and in desperate need. I love that theory about the truth behind Zodiark - that he also existed before the Creation magic used to summon him, and that he manipulated the Amaurotines into using that magic to give him a physical form. During his time in the army he wandered the globe, and with his mother's guidance, started experimenting with Dark Magic. Meanwhile, the High Elves started organizing themselves and elected a new Phoenix King, Caledor the First. The Sundering was the great civil war that fractured the Elven race into the High Elves and the Dark Elves, and sunk a large portion of Ulthuan - primarily sections of Tiranoc and Nagarythe which is now known as the Shadowlands. Yet another sacrifice to save the the world, even though it cost them everything. The term came into popular use among Eorzeans little more than a decade ago. I believe this depends more on how the story team spins the actual act of sundering. After some time, Malekith became discontent. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also … The great sundering [edit | edit source] The Calamities are a result of the Ascians ' efforts to return the world of Hydaelyn to its original state. I am a bit worried about Unukalhai though, with those cryptic words Elidibus said at the very end ><. In this scenario, both Hydaelyn and Emet-Selch could be speaking honestly, even though there's a conflict in their stories. It is possible that there were enough people left alive in the world who disagreed with the plan to summon Zodiark such that if they all sacrificed themselves to stop him, Hydaelyn would have been more powerful than Zodiark, and others have a fair point when they say Zodiark had feasibly already expended a significant amount of power that could not be recovered on undoing or mitigating the effects of the Calamity. I like your idea that she may be the actual will of the planet summoned by the 14th and his companions. Once healed, Malekith was consumed with a bitter hatred for those who has resisted him . Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow. I think the only purpose behind the Sundering was to try to prevent the use of the Creation magic that caused the original Calamity. Hydaelyn says that in the beginning there was balance, but the darkness coveted power and upset the balance, so she was forced to split the world and seal him away. The forgotten Fourteenth seat of Amaurot 's Convocation of Fourteen before the sundering of the Source, they were associated with the Sun. Like the "summoning" of Hydaelyn. I've been avoiding spoilers, so this is the first I've interacted with Reddit since 5.0 dropped.). We see at the end of Anyder a single acadaemic summoning a Guardian Force at the expense of their own life, proving that this kind of self-sacrifice is possible. Yet the Sacred Flame burned him, scarring him horrifically. But Emet-Selch described the conflict in terms of Hydaelyn first defeating Zodiark and then performing the Sundering. Didn't they say in the act of smiting Zodiark the star was sundered? Log In He is introduced in Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers. Edit: Fixed some typos and reworded something in paragraph 2 to more clearly express my thoughts. What if the other half did all sacrifice themselves to stop Zodiark? Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers is the third expansion pack to Final Fantasy XIV, a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed and published by Square Enix for Microsoft Windows, macOS, and PlayStation 4.It was released on July 2, 2019, two years after Stormblood, the previous expansion.Like its predecessors, Naoki Yoshida served as director and producer and … Rather than summon her, I think the other Ascian(s) merely awakened her to the danger and then she defeated Zodiark and sundered the world. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! Left idle by the onset of the Age of Calm, a leading mercenary officer gathered a number of trusted companions to form a guild dedicated to the common cau… This calleth to mind a truth that Emet-Selch did once reveal in passingâ”€that the names by which we know our foes are not those given to Ascians at birth. They are an explicitly alien form of life, granted sanctuary by Hydealyn. Trump Defends the Confederacy, Complains About Polls: A Closer Look - Duration: 13:12. What we don't know is what Zodiark was like. I also believe that Hydaelyn is at least equal in power to Zodiark, that's why she's able to defeat him. Hydaelyn was fresh as a daisy and popped the old man off ez. Worse yet, the Cult of Pleasure, a society of poets and artists, founded by Morathi herself, turned out to be a the Cult of Slaanesh. Now the Council was destroyed, Malekith had only to pass through the Sacred Fire of Asuryan, king of the Elven Gods. Expansions include … The argument between Malekith and the Council of Princes turned violent, and Malekith and his followers killed most of the Princes, claiming to save Ulthuan. Basically, whether the Sundering was a critical defeat or just the next best option is going to depend entirely on the script. Reflections of the Source, each possessed of a shard. This is part of the larger Legend of Drizzt series set in the Forgotten Realms. It seems to be geographically isolated. Lyna thanks you for a candid discussion of her concerns for the Crystal Exarch. View Your Character Profile. Because these humans were made by hydalen, they themselves then broke into (possibly thirteen) other races. Over 13,000 years ago, the progenitor race of man known as the ancients suffered a catastrophe known as the Final Days . Those loyal to the Council accused Malekith of assassination. 436k. WE CAN DO IT! In his mind the Elves must be a warlike people to face the ever-growing menace from the forces of Chaos. I don't think Emet-Selch fully understands the situation with Hydaelyn (and possibly even with Zodiark). Several Lucasfilm Games ... Of the great sundering, and the reflections it created? What was it? And I, faithful Fandaniel, labor only to advance my lord's ambitions.Fandaniel to Zenos Fandaniel is a non-player character in Final Fantasy XIV. In sundering the star did we cry out, and the barriers 'twixt planes chance to falter. We know that Zodiark was created by the ancients when the Sound began to destroy the world via creation magic. As Malekith and his coven began this dark ritual, the mages of Isle of the Dead intervened, weaving powerful counter spells. Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! Anyone can actually be taught to do it, and it's really not all that different from performing any other aetheric manipulation. The Sundering was a five-hundred-year period in the history of Sarlona where wars between the states known as the Twelve Kingdoms threatened to engulf all of Sarlona. The energy used to summon Zodiark was that of people other than the ones conducting the summoning, where Hydaelyn was presumably summoned using the energy of the summoners themselves. I found this strat on a Chinese FFXIV forum and I think it is genius. Zodiark being summoned is the darkness coveting power that she speaks of in 3.0. Emet-Selch instead asserts that Zodiark was summoned through sacrifice to stabilize a world on the brink. He was summoned with the belief in sacrificing lives for the pursuit of power (regardless of what that power will be used for), so that's what his tempered followers are driven to do. Declaring that Malekith was not fit to rule, they selected another to sit on the throne - Bel Shanaar of Tiranoc, a hero of the war. Final Fantasy XIV Pro, Database and Community. She then bids you return to the Crystarium, where the Scions are no doubt anxious for your return. Zodiark being mentioned as the "Keeper of Precepts" in FFXII, that theme holds, so it's possible that the ones summoning Hydaelyn opposed not just the method, but the substance of the laws Zodiark was going to be putting in place. Zodiark most likely expanded his energy to stop the cataclysm + save the planet. Maybe Emet assumes she is a primal that the other ancients summoned, but didn't actually witness how she was "summoned." There's also space for figuring out some of the nature of this power of creation; perhaps the Three Dooms faced by Amaurot were more on the order of the Weapons created by worlds in other FF series - notably VII, where the lifestream was preparing them to fight back against the interference of the "Calamity from the Skies" that was Jenova's influence. Midgardsomr and the Greatwyrms he sired are such terrible and powerful beings that have influenced the world since they arrived from a distant Star. That's the order of things in the cave paintings, too. Sacrifice lives to empower him. Although their stronghold in Nagarythe was nearly impregnable, Malekith's followers were slowly outnumbered, as Caledor proved to be as equally skilled of a general as the Witch King. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. (I'm basically not on board with the "she's less powerful, but was summoned specifically to split him so it works theory). We don't really know. Sundering The Sundering was the great civil war that fractured the Elven race into the High Elves and the Dark Elves , and sunk a large portion of Ulthuan - primarily sections of Tiranoc and Nagarythe which is now known as the Shadowlands . The choice of words had me imagining a giant cartoonish flower stomping on Ramuh and I can't stop laughing, LOL. His body had healed sufficiently, but his mind was destroyed beyond repair and he had gone insane. Of these, I think it's the last one we're still missign the most on. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. This was sometime after the sundering, which was about 12,000 years ago. Or could he have done it anyway, but demanded a sacrifice? If, for example, those who summoned Hydaelyn see problems with "restriction of freedom" that may be as much of a problem as if they want to "promote the natural order" - given the natural order led to the original world's destruction, somehow. Desperate, Malekith decided on a final gamble: he gathered his sorceresses and attempted to unravel the Vortex of Ulthuan, a great swirling mass that prevented the return of the full force of Chaos. there are likely more races to be seen, or possibly some of the beastmen type races were also created in this fragmentation I definitely think the two biggest questions we need answered to start understanding everything are the origins of Hydaelyn and what the Sound is. These stories do not appear to be fully compatible on their faces. When the council propose sacrificing more people to restore those who were lost, a group objected and summoned Hydaelyn to suppress Zodiark. 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